i have to just tell you, that's -- that is a bad strategy for america. it's a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. chris: he wants a pretty good deal, a lot of things in it. when he sits down in that room with he and boehner, it's come down to the two of them, are both looking at the fact that obama won the election and he should get a tilt in his discretion, a 60-40 deal? >> i think boehner is a realist and when he said things like bahama care is the law of the land and backtracked a little, that's a signal. he's saying let's jump off the boat together, not the cliff, the boat. it's about legacy for both of them. chris: the president seems to insist on a rate hike for the top bracket, something close from 35 to 39.6. does he need something more in terms of taxing the rich, like getting rid of deductions for mortgage, charity, state, local? >> he's already got in his package which totals $1.6 trillion, an additional closing loopholes, capping deductions, so yes, he does need more. the president's in a very interesting